And where everyone knew who was ducking into whose back door to cheat on whose spouse, while tacitly looking the other way ... until the shit hit the fan, and then everyone would get out on their lawns and watch the show. I mean, why would you hide behind your curtains? Everybody knows you're watching.
As I grew older, each year the hypocrisy grew thicker as I came to understand the outside world. That is, as I came to understand sex. Sex emerged from our Dungeons & Dragons games spontaneously, obviously — we were the sons of doctors, lawyers, engineers, ministers, researchers, university professors. We lived in a pristine, supra-scrubbed culture both indoors and out ... and so naturally we had a mall, which naturally had a smoke shop, which naturally sold porn mags to all the clean-cut, professional men who were intrinsically too clean to watch porn on film. The way this joke came into my hands is an interesting story. It comes from an issue of Penthouse, May 1974 ... when I was 10. I bought it when I was 14 from a friend, who found the mag under his father's chest of drawers, after his parents got divorced. And I still have it. Strange games.
The joke works on multiple levels. The little boy that knows, hitting the sister where she lives. The woman admitting that the language isn't hurtful, but where it's coming from. The way it's ... positive advertising. After all, Rosalyn's paid to suck.
If we're going to call D&D "an adult game," then sooner or later we're going to have to be adults. What I remember about the people I grew up around was their privileged, often ludicrous outrage at things they didn't understand. Which is the same feeling I get when I read someone's list of D&D "don'ts" where no. 7 is "No Sex." Because, with that familiar suburban taint of hypocrisy, it's "creepy" ... as opposed to, you know, the necessity to produce all the beautiful children in the world.
Oh, I'm sorry, I've gone and written about whores and children in the same post. Gawd, what a monster I am. I have no business being a grandfather.
We are living in strange times. On the one hand, it's perfectly legitimate, and let me stress, a good thing, for an individual to legally and physically pursue the gender of their birth. And if I can be more clear about what that involves, there are books at the medical library that explicitly details exactly what physical alterations are necessary ... trust me, the disturbing nature of the pic at the start of this post isn't on the same planet as these texts. We can accept all this, support it, politically ... but as a DM I'm not supposed to mention "sex" in a running. Oh no. No. That's a bridge too far.
Well, I'm not going to flog this. I've ridiculed it. That's enough.
Part of me says, don't publish this post. Lot of people aren't going to read this far. Hah. They won't get past the comic. The other part of me remembers that I'm not here to please. Not interested in ranting an all, but ... I still want to push boundaries. Force people to look at things that are uncomfortable. Question the ad hoc principles that a bunch of moralists who don't play D&D think ought to be the boundaries.
But even I don't dare venture into another description of how sex in D&D could work.
Yep, strange times.
For a while I've wanted to add secondary sexual characteristics (penis size, breast shape, etc.) to my character background generator. (IIRC you have them in yours.)
ReplyDeleteBut when I've asked players, they've always said something like, "I wouldn't mind, and that fits the granularity of your game. But what if you get someone new who sees that right off the bat and gets the wrong idea about your game -- thinks you're the kind of DM who's going to use the game to act out his fetishes?"
I accepted that argument at the time, when I was a bit more worried about retaining players, but your post prompted me to think again. I suppose the counterargument is that anyone who would be put off enough to quit playing over sex characteristics without so much as asking, "Hey, why are these here?" is someone I don't want to play with anyway!
I'll have to get to that when I do another revision of the BG generator.
FWIW, I don't have any rules yet for purchasing a whore, seducing someone for quick sex, or courting someone for romance -- so those would be good additions before or after I've got sex characteristics in the generator.
ReplyDeleteHeh. I'd intended to take out those things, because I found they weren't adding to people's image of their character. On the whole, however, I won't push sex to occur as part of the game, but I'm not above having a prostitute offer a character as scenery, or having an NPC fall in love with the player character. I've run various moments of sex in games, but it's not a play-by-play procedure.
ReplyDeleteIt does, however, admit that sex actually happens ... while some out there seem to be saying that sex should function like the lack of a toilet in the film Pleasantville.
I thought the comic was funny.
ReplyDeleteWe've discussed before how D&D allows us to do things we can't do in real life (things both impossible and impractical). When we (my friends and I) were kids...teens and pre-teens...there was a LOT of sex and sexual situations in our games. Since becoming an adult, I haven't seen...well, ANY sex or sexual situations really...in my role-playing games. Even when playing with all adults (no kids present or at the table). Even when playing with all MALE adults (lest one thinks this is a gender thing...we had multiple females as regular players in the games of my youth).
Now perhaps this was just a matter of the players' personalities or group chemistry or whatever...but perhaps there was no need to role-play sexual escapades/exploits when those things were already ingrained into our actual (real world) experiences...unlike killing orcs, jumping over spiked pits, and dealing with necromantic curses. There was nothing anymore "taboo," no more "transgression" to be experienced in a fantasy world...once you're of a certain age and "worldliness" (and assuming you have some money in your pocket) hookers and blow are no longer "fantasy."
Should you choose to go down this road.
All that being said: I wouldn't put "sex" on a list of Don'ts for D&D. I mean...hmm. I'd find it gauche for someone to act in a...mm..."tasteless" fashion at the game table. Especially if there are children present and playing. I moderate my language around children (my own and others). Not that my children don't know the Bad Words (they do). But casual vulgarity is something I can control and...I suppose...I see my job as being an example of Good Behavior. Plenty of time ahead of them to do their own experiments in boundary pushing (as I did in my youth). But modeling a certain example of "adult" will (hopefully) give them a pole star to steer by as they mature.
[that's the hope anyway]
We do live in strange times. VERY strange. I have a LOT of thoughts and opinions on these things. It's good to know I'm not the only person that thinks it's worthwhile to discuss them, rather than just lay down judgment.
[and I realize my hypocrisy here as I am EXTREMELY judgmental]
In the game I run, we don't role-play sex or talk about it in extreme detail, but it's acknowledged and sometimes integral to the campaign...
ReplyDeleteIn an early session, a few years ago, a barbarian chieftain threatened to rape a female NPC traveling with the party. The PCs intervened and ultimately slew the chieftain. Sessions later, one of the two primary PCs and the female NPC "got together," and their relationship developed over several months of game time (multiple years of real time). Discussion stayed at mostly a high level, but we had (have) a handful of blog/flavor posts documenting some of their (non-sex) interactions. I took to rolling percentage dice every game month based on the couple's perceived "activity level" (based on the party's current situation and other factors) to determine if the NPC woman became pregnant.
It took awhile (the rolls weren't in their favor, or were, depending on how you look at it...) but she finally did... a few weeks before he, the PC/would-be-father, perished to undead in a cavern the party was investigating. We have epilogue posts recounting her broken state in the aftermath of these events (it was gruesome, and other key allies/PCs were lost in the battle as well), and chronicling her path in the weeks and months following. It got very emotionally deep and sad; she never had a chance to tell him that she was with child, before he died.
There's more to the story than this, but the point is that none of it would have unfolded had we denied the inclusion of sex in our game. It's not about getting off at anything X-rated, but rather exploring another major aspect of life and making the game more real.
We don't talk much about poop though. :)
Re: poop. That's because Judd Apatow has yet to release an RPG.
ReplyDeleteMatt,
This is perhaps the point I failed to make. JB brought this up, also. I wouldn't find much purpose in "role-playing" a sexual interaction, though I have role-played the set up, the part that would occur in an old movie before the camera moved to the swaying curtains. But the fact that I'm not actually describing drips of sweat falling from body parts does not discount the actual presence of SEX happening in occasional scenes in my game world.
I've been thinking ... with regards to my pricing tables for players to spend money on things, I've included having a bath, getting a shave, hiring a temporary valet or guide, having a cow ritually slaughtered and several other similar actions ... but not "how much does a prostitute cost." I'm sure I could figure out a fair price; work was done in this area a long time ago. But is this the sort of thing I could publish in a poster to be sold at a game con? One little line among hundreds of other lines that read, "Personal attention, backstreet courtesan, tip included ... 3 g.p."
Some would laugh and some ... wouldn't.
FWIW, I never got the impression that you were role-playing the gritty details of sexual encounters... I just wanted to make it clear that my group wasn't, either.
ReplyDeleteFor our game, even with sex/romantic relationships kept to a fairly abstract level, the player of the PC in question is a close friend and confidant of nearly 30 years. There's a comfort level between us that may not exist for many who game together, and from that angle, I can see how "sex in D&D" can be seen as something of a taboo, even more so than other... explicit... things. But I think this applies mostly if at least one *player* is involved in the in-game intimacy... if it's just the presence of sexual content in general, I'm with you--in an adult game, sex is a natural and appropriate inclusion.