Typical North American bias here regarding action movies, which presupposes that every film that's action oriented is a two-dimensional romp with bad marksmanship, speeding cars, beefy guys who endure through pluck and courage and stock villains. No Country for Old Men, Seven, La Balance, the original Swedish Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, Harry Brown, Hanna, Straw Dogs (the 1972 film), The Wild Bunch, Greyhound, 1917, We Were Soldiers, Blood Diamond, Haywire ... these are realistic action films, full of gritty consequences, so obviously the question is trying to assume the distinction between "serious" and "not serious." Which, incidentally, is the distinction between every comparison being made on the list. So why not just say that?
Because we want to believe we're being helpfully descriptive here. We're not. The terms are so general that they're non-exclusionary. Some elements of Armageddon are quite believable. Some elements of Atomic Blonde are scarcely credible. It makes no difference, because both are "cinematic" and both are technically "gritty" Hey, people die in Armageddon—all of Paris, ffs. It doesn't get more gritty than that, although the film's science is jerkily ludicrous.
The larger argument to be made is that REAL LIFE incorporates every adjective on this list. We can hang in a bar with our friends, laughing so hard that we fall off the stool, like being in a beer commercial, and then be crippled for life in a car wreck on the way home. Does that mean every moment in life is "gritty" and has "consequences"? Or is it that life is way more complex that we can tag with adjectives? We have 4,800 adjectives in the English language because we have a lot of different situations to cover. Why would we assume that players, being human and using their brains, and speaking language, would be able to describe something as complicated as a role-playing game with 7 adjectives?
2. "Do you want the game to maintain a sense of medieval fantasy, or can you tolerate some incursions of the modern world and modern thinking (anachronism)?"
There's no possibility of keeping anachronisms out of the game. We don't live in a fantasy universe, we live in a real one, and our natural experiences will cause us to use metaphors and examples from the world we know. It's reasonable to explain to players that in a setting without flush toilets, there are other habits and processes that must take place in order to shift the gong (medieval term) out of our bodies and put elsewhere. But it's impractical to keep players from using a tactic they picked up in a movie or a book, or to actively train their hired soldiers like a 19th century military unit. If a mage figures out how to cast a spell that will produce images on a flat surface, is it acceptable for the mage to then build a theatre and charge for a show every night? Are you telling me the customers wouldn't pay?
Whose to say that if magic didn't exist, "wall plays" wouldn't exist, hm? Perhaps they could be found in every medium-to-large sized town. Ask yourself: does your game world have street lamps? Those came into existence because there were many more workers at night with the start of the Industrial Revolution, but there's nothing intrinsically hyper-technical about them. It's an oil lamp on a pole behind glass. The Romans could have built them. How about baseball? Are your players allowed to teach people baseball? That's what the character Hank Morgan does in Mark Twain's A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court, along with a great many other things. Are these "allowed"? And if they're not, precisely why not? What is there about baseball that couldn't have existed in the 11th century. Or in Ancient Egypt, for that matter. How do you know for certain that it didn't exist, in some form. We have staggeringly few records of that time.
And whose to say that the gods, being gods and not necessarily subject to time, haven't already taught other cultures on other worlds, how to play baseball? They got it from Earth and now they've inspired my player character to reinvent it. That seems believable and not a bit anachronistic.
I'm kidding, of course, but if you take the anachronistic thing too far, it must be noted how many things have come about since the 1200s that shouldn't be in your early medieval world—quite a lot of things. No matter how you try to guard that gate, there will be anachronistic things in your world; you might just allow for their existence, realizing that it's not such a big deal anyway, whatever kind of fantasy world you're running.
3. "Do you want to maintain a serious tone, or is humour your goal?"
I have very little to say on this. I have an excellent sense for comedy, as anyone who has read this blog for a time can realize. I'm a wit in real life. My marriage is like living in a 1940s screwball comedy, with zingers crossing back and forth between my partner and I; we're both very sarcastic and half the time she will best me. We don't unleash these gifts on anyone but my daughter who, obviously, learned from a young age.
Trying to force comedy into a campaign might work for the groundlings, but not being a stinkard, I refuse to pay only a penny for my entertainment. The humour I see presented on Critical Role, for example, is infantile acting out ... and these are experts at the "humoured campaign." No, thank you. Why don't these people just hit each other with pies?
You get better humour when you don't try so hard.
That's all I'm going to say about comedy. Others have written much more than me, and I bow to their wisdom.
4. "Even if you are serious, is the action lighthearted or intense?"
It depends on what's happening, doesn't it? I'll say both.
5. "Is bold action key, or do the players need to be thoughtful and be cautious?"
Again, it depends on what's happening. There's a reason why we have the two adages, "Look before you leap" and "He who hesitates is lost." It's because sometimes, it is the best idea to rush in and seize the moment, and sometimes, it's necessary to be cautious. That's really the players' problem, isn't it?
Yes, my world is threatening, in that it has monsters in it and the dice will kill you. Judging by the amount of caution my online players seem to possess, I'm guessing my world is a LOT more dangerous than most worlds.
6. "Do you have a hard time improvising, or are you great at winging it?"
This is getting awfully specific. The passage doesn't give me any information as to how either affects the game. I know how it does, but this is supposed to be a how-to and these two questions are asking the same thing twice. "Is it tails or is it not heads?" Instead of asking me why I do it, why don't they take some time and teach instead? Hm?
Okay, you need to improvise because there's no real way you can prepare for the game ahead of time sufficiently, that you won't also need to come up with something on the fly when the players act unexpectedly. Mind you, this fact is in no way a "DM style"—every DM has to do this, constantly, regardless of their style. True, some are not good at it. But even in a railroaded campaign, players will go left when you expect them to go right, they will randomly set the place on fire, they will decide this is a good time to shout stupidly at the top of their lungs. You've got to be ready for that shit.
7. "Is the game full of varied D&D elements, or does it center on a specific theme such as a horror?"
Again, this isn't "style." This is genre. Do these writers have a dictionary?
8. "Is it for all ages, or does it involve mature themes?"
Well, it's not for 2 year olds. How mature are we talking about here? You mean "mature" like the 16 y.o.'s who are buying drugs from the dealer and holding each other's hair when they puke? Or do you mean "mature" in that the themes are related to 1950s standards of sexism and racism? Please define mature.
Again, I can't help thinking this is genre-related, or political maybe. The game is about killing monsters. That's why we have monsters. So we can kill them. As it happens, all the weapons and spells are pretty good for killing men, women and children also, not to mention dogs, cats and cute lil' bunny rabbits. So, if we're saying the game doesn't have "mature" content, then what the hell are all these weapons for? Do you get just how horrific a fireball would feel like if you experienced one? That doesn't seem pretty fucking mature? Where the hell are these goal posts?
9. "Are you comfortable with a moral ambiguity, such as allowing the characters to explore if the end justifies the means, or are you happier with straightforward heroic principles, such as justice, sacrifice, and helping the downtrodden?"
Please point to the person who's comfortable with moral ambiguity. I'll wait.
If the players want to explore "the end justifies the means," how do you propose that I stop them? Is that the style you're talking about? How much we quantifiably deny the players' rights to take actions with their character unilaterally, if it steps outside a boundary?
I really like how "justice," "sacrifice" and "helping the downtrodden" are described as OPPOSITE to moral ambiguity. Will someone please explain how the "heroic" versions of these things are lacking in ambiguity? Again. Happy to wait.
Well. I know a lot more about DM Style than I did before I read this passage. How 'bout you?
This series continues with Turned Off
I haven't been very impressed with anything I've read from James Wyatt.
ReplyDeleteThis is the kind of thing I've (often) read in RPGs and simply skimmed over, not bothering to contemplate exactly what it's saying. I'll go down the columns checking "serious" or "gritty" or what have you (in my mind) yet entirely failing to contemplate that the choices presented aren't even valid options...that, as you so rightly point out, these things are just facts and facets of LIFE.
ReplyDeleteBut perhaps they're not talking about binary choices so much as different emphases a DM can skew towards. I can choose to describe a fireball as knocking foes through the air, or I can go into loving detail of the burns, smells, and screams of badly wounded individuals. I can inject silly puns into every location and NPC name the party encounters, or I can adapt an actual language (Nahuatl, Polish, or Tolkien elvish) to my setting. I can craft scenarios with Disney villains and "evil cultists" or I can create moral dilemmas about starving refugees, villages wracked with plague, sticky conflicts between factions that all read as wholesome, innocent, and "good," etc.
The question being asked, rather stupidly (and count me as stupid, too, for never bothering to look closely at it) is not just stupid for its poor phrasing, but is downright WRONG for what is trying to glean (or for what it is trying to make the potential DM learn about him or her self). The CORRECT question to ask the would-be DM is: "How seriously do you want to take the game?" Descriptive detail aside (it's fine to draw lines and veils with one's narrative gruesomeness, BTW) do you want to have a game that is immersive, or one that is simply a nonsensical, cartoony lark?
And...if the answer is the former...to how much work are you willing to commit to reach the depth of immersion you want?
"Style"...what elements of life are emphasized by the DM...is a ridiculous question to consider and ponder on and (in the long run) makes no never mind to the success or viability of running a game.
Good god. When I got to "general" I lost my fucking mind.
ReplyDeleteI simply cannot understand how anyone could look at the portion of text you posted, and said, "Yeah, this teaches something." It barely bloody says anything, let alone performs a pedagogical function.
The person who made the twitter post which inspired you to kick off this series? What the hell did she think she learned from this, I wonder.
(I'm still here and still read you every day. I'm suffering an injury that drastically limits my typing ability - a form of RSI. Haven't done any proper writing, coding, editing, translating, etc. for weeks, months. Dictation software proving to be near total garbage. Trying everything I can to recover.)
I am sorry to hear that, Maxwell. Yeah, unfortunately, you will have to pay real money for a decent dictation software. Please bear up as well as you can; I hope you have access to a group that is able to give you aid.
ReplyDeleteYes, I agree. I'm beginning to think the girl on twitter was something of a twit.
Read your comment a few times, JB, and I think the correct question is, "How much work do you want to do." Just that. The less work you do, the more cartoony a lark its going to be, since you will have nothing else to hinge the campaign on. If you are willing to work, then it will be more immersive to the effort you're willing to put in.
ReplyDeleteI wish I could have said this as succinctly as you had.
I’m all about the pithy phrase.
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Thing is, Alexis, that it’s not enough to be succinct with these concepts, if you’re writing an actual “guide,” or tool for teaching. Succinct isn’t enough for the newbie; concepts require elaboration and explanation. And to be fair, it is plenty easy to fail at such elaboration, even with the best intentions. I screw up communicating my thoughts all the time with poor phrasing, lazy word usage, bad analogies, etc.
Yes, it’s all well and could to tell people they need to put in effort...but it still remains to explain how that effort can best be directed to accomplish the desired objective. I have no doubt that the Crit Role folks practice and rehearse and put effort into the shows they put on that have made them so popular. But, of course, that’s a different kind of “work” from what’s needed to run a satisfying (as I judge the term) game.
But DMing “style?” I mean, is there a better example of padding? Jeez.
I remember reading this, and the "Player Types" back when 4e first came out. I also remember being very impressed by all of this back then.
ReplyDeleteI guess it was a bit of anintroduction to examining my game, and my players, and striving to make improvements to my game.
Of course, it is a very good thing that it wasn't the last word ai ever read on the game, as these pages obviously leave a lot to be desired.