Here is our fourth podcast, recorded March 18 at the Indigo Bookstore in West Calgary. There are some issues. We edited fairly hard in order to keep the subject more or less on track, there is plenty of ambient noise (audio improves after fifteen minutes for some reason), there are seven people talking and for some reason, at the 27:30 mark the audio repeats itself for about two minutes. Oh well, we're learning. It fits that we talk about getting past making mistakes in the first five minutes because this applies to podcasts also.