Imagine that I've just written a post eviscerating 4th edition D&D. I've talked about its design, then its bad choices, the failure of the concept in just seven short years and the creating company's decision to throw the version to the winds in favour of getting a "democratic" game design to put in its place. I've systematically gone through each element of the decision-process and I've tied it to technological, social and personal attitudes about the world in a way that clearly makes my politics self-evident. Then, at the end, you find this paragraph following such a post:
"Thank you so much for reading. Do you like 4th edition? What do you think of the game's design? Let's start a discussion in the comments. I'd love to hear what you think."
Now imagine that you've just finished the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, and at the end you find this mixed into the book's epilogue:
"Do you think that O'Brien was right to do what he did to Winston? Perhaps you feel that seeking power entirely for it's own sake is a good thing. Write your opinions to my editor. It would be terrific if we could get a dialogue going."
I am seeing this sort of thing all the time now. Youtube's social algorithm rewards those creators who get comments, so every time a viewer writes a comment, it essentially puts money into the creator's pocket. We could solve every youtuber's dream overnight if we all, the six billion of us who use the editor, just wrote six random comments about nothing each day, like a bot, on random youtube videos. We'd also collapse the youtube algorithm overnight and ruin everyone's experience by destroying the foundations for how people get paid, but hey, it's not like people don't hate youtube.
Pandering is a ritual performance of openness after the creator has already provided their opinion about something... which states clearly and plainly that what the creator actually cares about is MONEY, not educating a reader, not ideals, not taking a stand, not belief. Dropping the sort, chirpy, "let's discuss" demonstrates beyond a shadow of a doubt that what the creator is doing is spewing out the opinion they're able to think up, and then immediately wanting to sell out that opinion as rapidly as they can. The trend isn't "let's discuss," the trend is, "help me enrich myself."
I find it repulsive.
When George Orwell wrote his book, he was not concerned about people who did not agree with his premise. He was not counting on his money coming from people who were ready to "have a discussion" about it. He knew there would be people who did disagree, who considered it simplified, unrealistic or unnecessarily dark. When he wrote it, he had no idea whether or not it would do well. He did not care. He wrote what he thought.
We don't do this anymore. We write in the hopes that someone will like us. And give us money. And we pray we won't get cancelled. And as a result, we don't need A.I. to produce slop for us.
We're more than able to make lots of slop on our own.
I find the addendum "lets discuss" or "what do you think" to be redundant at best and insulting at worst. As though I needed permission to give my opinion on whatever someone has just said.
ReplyDeleteI find similarly frustrating something that a friend of mine does. Whenever I give my opinion on anything, he corrects me "no no no, you THINK Shakespeare is a better playwright than Marlowe." This, as a correction to "Shakespeare was a better playwright than Marlowe." But making declarative, unqualified statements is how we express what we think. If were to say said "I think Shakespeare is better than Marlowe" all that means is "I think I think Shakespeare is better than Marlowe," which is an opinion that I can't imagine anyone else caring about. Who cares about my assessment of my own thoughts?
Ha. Shakespeare is obviously a better playwright than Marlowe. It's not even close. It's not something anyone who's read both playwrights has to think about.
DeleteThat said, I've been trying to sort out an opinion: what I "think" about the need people have to rank things. Like it's remotely relevant whose "better"... since that does not, in fact, tell us anything valuable about either playwright.
In truth I haven't even read Marlowe, I just invented an example opinion that I thought no one would disagree with.
DeleteI think it does tell us something useful about *both* playwrights, with respect to each other. I can't speak with authority, because I've only read Shakespeare, but assuming he IS a better playwright (as his reputation has it) then that tells you you will be better served reading him than Marlowe, for most purposes. Still, it doesn't say which purposes, and it can vary based on which two authors you pick...
Oh, Edward II. If you want a Marlowe education; a television play featured Annie Lennox. You might be able to find that.
ReplyDeleteEdward II is the awful king in Netflix's Outlaw King with Chris Pine, if you're looking for context there. What happened to him should happen to Trump. We can learn from history.
Thank you, you're helping me get closer to that post about ranking.
To frame this question, I used to be actively in what's now known as the "OSR blogosphere" by way of my bad (and apparently fondly remembered?) writing, notwithstanding my efforts to avoid the "OSR" association when it spawned. I still search old blogs and comments in an effort to find some archive of my own old material, which I purged long ago due to embarrassment and pique.
ReplyDeleteI remember your blog because of our previous pleasant interactions and my enjoyment of your material.
I no longer view gaming blogs on even a semi-regular basis and am only doing so tonight because that search for an archive. While I was at that, I checked in on your blog. I'm accordingly unfamiliar with your current stances except insofar as you've made tangential mention.
Given a sufficiently prescriptive preamble, the free version of ChatGPT can generate in minutes or less what most people, including me, considered imaginative in the "old days." Do you see any value in LLM/generative AI for gaming purposes other than for raw historical research or other purely informational aggregation?
Generative A.I. is not a political movement, it is not a religion, it is not an entity... it cannot have purpose, it cannot by definition have any value in and of itself, because it is a tool. Those who wish to iterate against A.I. (which you have not done, Scott) do so under the flag that it is one of the things I've just claimed it is not. As a tool, it's purpose is whatever an individual puts it to. I could not begin to guess the total possibilities as to what value A.I. as a tool could be put to, any more than I could evaluate all the possibilities a lever or a pulley might be put to. As a tool, I find it flexible, beneficial and time saving. I find that I am able to produce with it the sort of content that, by and large, bores me, but which is necessary to a rule set or a game setting.
DeleteAs a tool, it is certainly not limited to historical research or purely informational value.
(Sorry, I haven't commented on blogspot for so long that I didn't know that it'd publish my comment with an "unknown" ID. This is Scott Driver, I used to comment here occasionally, and feel free to delete this follow-up comment.)
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