tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3871409676946408069.post1827705608973959834..comments2023-10-14T03:58:59.333-06:00Comments on The Tao of D&D: 21st Class: World ViewAlexis Smolenskhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10539170107563075967noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3871409676946408069.post-72513216516659224502018-12-27T21:30:44.798-07:002018-12-27T21:30:44.798-07:00I want to present a formal apology before I begin ...I want to present a formal apology before I begin this comment. I just realized that there are a lot of careless typos in my previous posts. I am terribly sorry for the cringiness you must have endured at the lack of elementary grammar. I was in such hurry because I thought I wouldn’t be able to finish my argument if I got a reply. Since I struggle a little with real-time mental translation, I feared that such an eventuality would irreparably break the flow of my train of thought, so I forgot to check for both basic typos and the Spanish autocorrect shenanigans. I shall strive to be more careful from now on, in order to give you your due respect.<br /><br />That paragraph of hearing expectation where there is none is very intriguing... and scary. It’s seems to imply that we hear it because we know deep down that we are not doing things right, and they be could so much better because you offer very hard material evidence of it, in lieu with the notion of really fully knowing us... but is it tuned to a radiant angelic symphony or to a dark demonic manthra? I’m not really in a position to judge that though, am I? It kind of shows that my principles are lacking<br /><br />As such, I must rekindle them by recognizing that wich could harm me, then reject it in the face of temptation and finally hope for some growth from the experience.<br />I thank you for your offers, but I must decline them. They are far too risky, for they will entice me to things I shouldn’t crave. Your last comment has all but convinced me that this game is truly corrupting and that dangerous people like you, Master, dwell inbetween it’s veils (I apologize if I am crossing a line here, I’m not trying to mock you or denounce you as a madman, I’m simply trying to communicate that our lives perspectives just don’t mesh, and never will).<br /><br /> I will have to abandon it because there will always be that siren lure to your offerings, and now I realize I can’t water it down because I will be always dealing with the same enthralling entity; the game itself. As I said earlier, other entertainings, like video games and such, don’t suffer from this because, even if they continually borrow schemes from this game, they are so very removed from the core DnD experience that the corrupting essence is extremely diluted as to be a non issue.<br /><br />I wrote this last comment in order to seal my peace of mind, hoping, again, that you could find yours.<br /><br />Regards, Amber.Amberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01705810677754514080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3871409676946408069.post-71636063156389764362018-12-27T18:58:37.088-07:002018-12-27T18:58:37.088-07:00Amber,
With all honestly, let me explain that the...Amber,<br /><br />With all honestly, let me explain that the only person you ever have to answer to is yourself. I sincerely appreciate what you've said; I want to know my readers.<br /><br />I assure you I've never demanded anything of anybody not directly related to my life; certainly not a reader. Since you're not the first to claim as much, however, I do think I'll write a post about it ~ but that post will not be an answer to anything you've written here.<br /><br />I demand very much of ME. I like it. I recognize that when I say that aloud, it <i>sounds</i> like an expectation ... but it is not. The expectation people hear is in themselves, not in me.<br /><br />Be well, Amber. Keep reading. I'm sure you'll find something of use in me, measured by your own standards.<br /><br />That's all I ever want of my ideas; that people will use them.<br />Alexis Smolenskhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10539170107563075967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3871409676946408069.post-32833023590648997182018-12-27T17:23:30.563-07:002018-12-27T17:23:30.563-07:00
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Where does that leaves the game the...<br />(Continued).<br /><br />Where does that leaves the game then? You demand a very smart and methodological game right? Thing is... I don’t necessarily need to be smart in my life. Case in point my dear mother. She barely finished high school and has zero training in anything (though, her departed father has communicated that she would have made good lawyer in another time and life) . She is just a good old housewife. Of course she is very wise in a maternal sense since her whole life has been given to her family, so we are very very sure her ánima time will be extremely short ( we often joke about it being no more than 5 minutes). So, she didn’t need be extremely versed in the art of knowledge, she just needed to love her lot in her familiar life, because that’s what she could do and she is being trying her best ever since. Everything else is just a way to find some material relief and relaxation in between struggles and sacrifices. This can take many forms of course, such as soup operas, YouTube cats videos, decorating cakes, you name it.<br /><br /><br />All in all, she doesn’t have the time or willpower to be smart because her toil is her family, just like I don’t have the same time because mine is the school, but it’s ok since well, I have been reassured countless I don’t have to. It may sound like some kind of distopyan agony, but please remember, we chose to believe in our dearly departed ancestors counsel, because we are extremely convinced that they await for us beyond our ánima time.<br /><br />Now, this next argument is very hard for me to express. Basically... yes, both my material and ánima family are very against this game.<br />Do you recall when I agreed with you inner objective groundwork? They revile this game because of that... it can get dangerously real, as in calling otherworldly and not controlable at all dark entities kind of real. Knowledge about reality sure is power. The logic goes like this: if we can call our dearly ancestors for help and counsel, then there a others that call can other entities for harm. Since the game can easily become a superb vessel for all of the human experience, what’s stopping it for it to become a portal between realms?<br /> The more knowledge is poured into the structure the more effective it becomes. As you can see, is the same principle as in the “ do your best, the best you can” parable, but directed at a very insidious and damaging path.<br /><br />That’s why I don’t to have be that smart, because too much knowledge can lead to a horrible misuse, wich will beget untold real insufferable pain and despairing (we don’t adscribe to the expiation through uncesseary pain dogma, in fact, my dearly departed ancestors totally condemn it), and that can potentially stain me until I reach that black void of no return. So, the more wooden and cookie-cutter it becomes, the less probability that it festers in my ánima. <br />If I don’t have to be that smart to reach happiness and the perils of knowledge can totally destroy me forever if misused, then sadly (or fortunately?) I have no real incentive to advocate your kind of game.<br />In that sense, my game can’t and will not go beyond a my little pony soup opera cat video, because those things are not hurting my dearly beloved mother ánima time.<br /><br />As such, I seem to return to that middle place of the blue and red pills. Yes, I have to take the red pill of consciousness for my earthly life, but only what is strictly necessary because unwarranted stress will tear me apart in the next one . No, I can’t deal what is lurking behind the game because I am forever forbidden to it , so once again I take what is necessary of the blue pill of ignorance in order to protect myself and my cherished family.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Amberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01705810677754514080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3871409676946408069.post-26277691744380516222018-12-27T15:52:28.213-07:002018-12-27T15:52:28.213-07:00(This went longer than I anticipated, so if you wo...(This went longer than I anticipated, so if you would allow me, I willl divide it in order to oversaturate the comment posts’)<br /><br />I should have known you would have a siren power I wouldn’t able to resist. Truly, your experience outshines mine by far.<br />I’m not entirely sure if I am misunderstanding, but that last question is not aimed at dungeon and dragons, but at life my itself right? If so, I am compelled to thank you for it. <br />It is a tricky question indeed, and could be answered in many ways.<br />Maybe the best answer I can give is a sorta religious one? After all, It could tap into the world view lesson presented in here, but I feel I should warn you that things are going to get weird, if not outright unbelievable (for the record, I am 31, but I wholly agree I mostly failed to overcome the 22 year old mental stretch, sometimes not even the 16 one I’m afraid).<br /><br />As I said, my whole family is religious, but not the institutional sanctioned type. We don’t go to church, we very rarely give tithe, we simply know the basic bible prayers and passages, we barely acknowledge the pope exists at all and we just celebrate things like Christmas and the first week of the Holy Week. We do strongly believe in the saints’ miracles though, and the material intervention of what we call the “the holy souls (ánimas in Spanish) of purgatory”. I am not sure if all that if that is sanctioned by the institution, specially since we have regular contact with people that have... means to reach the other side, mostly just with our direct dearly departed though.<br />Anyway, it goes without saying that my family is very keen on the afterlife idea. I feel I shouldn’t to drag this anymore so I will try to summarize it like this: if you do what you can do, the best you can, then you will be fine. ( I am still going to be ánima for a time, earning my full penance by helping others, so the whole do your best thing serves to shorten that time, while traditional sins and human hubris in general lengths it).<br /><br />So, of course, in a life sense I can’t do that, right? I will be damming myself to eternal darkness (there is no fiery hell in our family, it’s more like a void of blackness and helplessness... maybe that’s scarier?).<br />In order to avoid that, I need to make a big compromise with my life, as in dedicate all of my resources to do what I can, the best I can. Right now I work in a shool. I really hesitate calling myself a teacher besides you... but I do impart some classes, I also work as a secretary there. it may be not much in the grand scheme of things, but the weekly toll is about 60 to 65 hours per week. Unless an ánima miracle happens again ( I was jobless for 3 years straight and this one came out of the blue, the morning after I made some peace with my direct ancestors for some messy business on my part because my dear mother desperately beseeched the holy ánimas) then this is my life and I have to give it all in good faith. If the miracle happens again, then that means I wasn’t at my best and that means more compromises and responsibilities and well, I will have to double my sacrifices and efforts.Amberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01705810677754514080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3871409676946408069.post-68595128979414494682018-12-26T11:03:09.258-07:002018-12-26T11:03:09.258-07:00Weird. Though I have encountered that attitude on...Weird. Though I have encountered that attitude online.<br /><br />Haven't at my table. There might be a few comments at the beginning, but it was never an issue with the Senex online campaign and it doesn't seem to be one with Juvenis. Considering how much fantasy fiction we watch that steals wholesale from hardline religion (Constantine, End of Days, Rosemary's Baby, Valhalla Rising, VVitch, The Possession, X-Files, Supernatural, etc), you'd think people would just roll with it. We're constantly mining mainstream for adventure thrillers.Alexis Smolenskhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10539170107563075967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3871409676946408069.post-90433835988595817152018-12-26T10:54:05.597-07:002018-12-26T10:54:05.597-07:00@ Alexis:
Just regarding #2 in my comment above: ...@ Alexis:<br /><br />Just regarding #2 in my comment above: I didn't saddle my players with ANY particular strictures (they weren't required to abstain from adventures on the Sabbath, for example, or take Communion before descending into a dungeon, or anything like that). They were just uncomfortable with a setting that adhered too closely to the real world (in this case, a medieval European one)...even though it was still recognizable as a "fantasy world" and had substantial alterations (I mean, their first adventure they were fighting little ewok-things...I don't remember the name...while assaulting a white dragon lair). They just really had difficulty outside the D&D paradigm of multi-god pantheons and laissez-faire religion. It made them decidedly uncomfortable...enough that they felt the need to express as much...though A) they couldn't really articulate WHY they were uncomfortable, and B) these were not particularly religious players (they were all "agnostics," atheists, and lapsed Christian types). <br /><br />I'm pretty open about my particular beliefs and religious practice, but I don't have problems drawing a line between my fantasy gaming and my life away from the table. I don't THINK I would have an issue if I was running in another DM's campaign (I didn't have an issue in YOUR campaign, for example). But it wasn't any particular behavioral restrictions I added that "weirded them out." Something about their personal meanings got rubbed the wrong way by the setting.JBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03263662621289630246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3871409676946408069.post-71308628397563985372018-12-26T10:25:19.440-07:002018-12-26T10:25:19.440-07:00Amber,
As it happens, I am ill again with the col...Amber,<br /><br />As it happens, I am ill again with the cold as I write this, my second time in six weeks. At 54 it is less pleasant than at 22. And as we get older as people, we begin to realize that this is what will get us in the end. This casual thing ... oh, I'm sick again. We realize it won't be a bus, or slipping off a ledge, or a thug with a knife; the thing that will get us in the end is that we will be perfectly fine, then one day we'll get sick. And it will be the sick we don't recover from.<br /><br />When that day comes for you, as it must for all of us, you have a question to ask yourself. Would you look back, forty years from now, and find the argument you just made satisfying?Alexis Smolenskhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10539170107563075967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3871409676946408069.post-77757377919634309972018-12-26T02:20:41.564-07:002018-12-26T02:20:41.564-07:00I have continued to read the blog and is difficult...I have continued to read the blog and is difficult for me to express myself, but I think you are owed an explanation if only to enable a semi understanding. I don’t plan on attacking or disproving the scope of your work, this is merely for the opportunity of shared communication.<br />I last said I strongly disagreed with some of your views, and it is still true, but it is also true I agree with them in principle.<br />It is kind like the dichotomy you just mentioned about objectivity and subjectivity. I wholy agree with the very objective fabric of the groundwork, it’s the subjective application I don’t find attractive for myself. I prefer to sit in between, watching and dreaming.<br /><br />In the end, knowledge has a price. Completely embrancing what your work offers demands a heavy sacrifice (time, deep mental and physical resources, ethical and estetic). I can’t and won’t afford that kind of payment. I don’t feel like being psychotic or desperate in an activity I chose to make my dreams come true. I already have my physical life for that. I don’t need more deep rooted ruptures, I’m daily way too tired for that. I will take the blue pill knowing and recalling there is a red one. That’s the best I can hope for since this middle road means stealing both from heaven and hell, Stitch it somehow and then become a tailored pony princess.<br /><br />Farewell master Tao, I hope you find the peace you are looking for. <br />My peace is accepting and embracing my right to be both happily weak and consciously adrift. Thank you for your time and attention.Amberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01705810677754514080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3871409676946408069.post-7625565537326503882018-12-25T20:58:21.469-07:002018-12-25T20:58:21.469-07:00Merry Christmas, JB.
Since I wasn't planning ...Merry Christmas, JB.<br /><br />Since I wasn't planning on directing arguments at these points (though who knows, now they're in my head)<br /><br />1) Basing an answer on the tone of your blog, I would say all of your inability rests on it. The very notion of grass-is-greener syndrome, in or out of the game, is the doubt any person has of accepting their truths as is in fear that there are other, better, more intense truths out there.<br /><br />I just recently saw a 1968 Peter Sellers film, not a good one, though I saw it when I was just a teenager and did not see it again until some days ago. It is called I Love You, Alice B. Toklas. Toklas was the writer of a 1954 cookbook that invented the marajuana brownie, and the lover of Gertrude Stein. The movie is about a square, square man who is unhappy with his life and gives it all up to be a hippie, only to learn that another set of values didn't do a thing to make him happy. He merely sacrifices one kind of discomfort for another. Yet this has been a pattern in Western culture since the '60s, since the idea that our truths might be all nonsense and surely there must be something better.<br /><br />Answer: Know Thyself and you'll stop wanting to change your campaign setting.<br /><br />2) Since I have no idea what strictures your introduction of real world paradigms required of your players, I can't say why they pushed back. I'm careful not to press players to buy their game religion as a role-playing guideline; I'd rather have Catholic priests in my world that spent time with prostitutes (ala Boccaccio's Decameron), giving them spells just as if they were pious, than bind my players with religious strictures.<br /><br />3) GMs (DMs) impose truths they recognize, that comforts them. I think the conflict arises out of the DM not being totally clear about what the DM believes; the subjective cannot become objective if the DM continues to be subjective about it. I hope the post above convinces some that to be a DM, we have to embrace the responsibility of saying, "This fantasy concoction of my world is REAL" ... and then present it as such. It think DMs fall down when they're not rigorous enough in their vision. Artists fail in the same way.<br /><br />In for a penny, in for a pound.Alexis Smolenskhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10539170107563075967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3871409676946408069.post-7933709225690167762018-12-25T20:26:35.531-07:002018-12-25T20:26:35.531-07:00Yet another insightful class. Just when my head wa...Yet another insightful class. Just when my head was already stuck in a Platonic "Allegory of the Cave" Limbo of subjectivity, you give DMs the key to creating our own objective reality.<br /><br />Several thoughts come immediately to mind, though (with a little thought) I suppose they all come from the same place of ignorant subjective "meaning-making:"<br /><br />1) How much of my inability to settle on one, single campaign setting for my D&D games is caused by my aversion to accepting my own power as a creator of concrete (fantasy) reality...and being "stuck" in it? Because every time a DM decides to change something in a campaign setting they are, in a way, undermining the "truth" of what they've created, right? At least, that's the subjective judgment I place on having a lack of "staying power" (causing a need to "get it right" the first time).<br /><br />2) How much of this power (because the ability to create a truly objective reality...even a fantasy one...IS a kind of power)is the reason for the lack of real world theologies and cosmologies (as defined by traditional, real world religions)...and the aversion players (and some DMs) have to adding such in their games? Because I have personally faced push-back (expressed discomfort) from players when I tried to model religions in campaigns that adhered too closely to real world paradigms.<br /><br />3) RPGs set in "historical" or "contemporary" periods of real world history are still fantasy (of course), but GMs are still imposing an objective truth on a world that we have a huge amount of subjective beliefs and meanings. Does this lead to more conflict at the table when DMs stop focusing on the fantasy elements (the mages/covens of Ars Magica, the super-beings conflict in a comic-based game) and instead focus on the "real world" elements (the Crusades and Catholic Church, real world political conflicts and issues of poverty, etc.)? Does the potential for this conflict lead to a lack of popularity in games that contain large elements of reality compared to games almost entirely fantasy (compare Twilight 2000 to Gamma World, for example)? <br /><br />Looking forward to the next class, which I think will address some of this.JBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03263662621289630246noreply@blogger.com